Comments on: The Cantorial Tradition In The Music Of Laurel and Hardy And "Our Gang?" ?p=249 Popular Culture, Unpopular Culture, and Tom Snyder Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:01:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: woid ?p=249&cpage=1#comment-42 woid Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:29:42 +0000 ?p=249#comment-42 If there's a reference anywhere to Leroy as "Larry," then I'm convinced. But I can't find one. If there's a reference anywhere to Leroy as "Larry," then I'm convinced. But I can't find one.

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By: Don ?p=249&cpage=1#comment-41 Don Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:01:40 +0000 ?p=249#comment-41 Actually, there was an "s."<br /><br />I'm told by Steve Cloutier from www.leroyshield.com that the Shield family has said that the reason Leroy changed his name from "Shields" to "Shield" was that he considered it would be advantageous in Hollywood if his name 'sounded more Jewish than Irish.'<br /><br />Curiouser and curiouser.<br /><br />If he was worried about that... why didn't he just play his old klezmer records for potential clients?<br /><br />A member of the Beau Hunks says that it's certainly possible that among all the work Shield did for Victor records, there might well have been some sides along those lines... Actually, there was an "s."

I'm told by Steve Cloutier from http://www.leroyshield.com that the Shield family has said that the reason Leroy changed his name from "Shields" to "Shield" was that he considered it would be advantageous in Hollywood if his name 'sounded more Jewish than Irish.'

Curiouser and curiouser.

If he was worried about that… why didn't he just play his old klezmer records for potential clients?

A member of the Beau Hunks says that it's certainly possible that among all the work Shield did for Victor records, there might well have been some sides along those lines…

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By: woid ?p=249&cpage=1#comment-40 woid Mon, 07 Dec 2009 02:01:28 +0000 ?p=249#comment-40 I googled, as I bet you did. "Larry Shield" comes up as a writing credit on chestnuts like "Tiger Rag" and "Fidgety Feet." <br /><br />But Larry SHIELDS is all over the web, including Wikipedia, where he's identified as an early New Orleans clarinetist who was on the recordings by the Original Dixieland Jass Band, often credited as the first jazz records (and offered up by racists as "evidence" that jazz was invented by white people). He was one of the first N.O. musicians to go to Chicago, and he later spent time in L.A., Chicago, and finally L.A., where he did <i>not</i> write scores for Hal Roach.<br /><br />The klezmer angle is interesting, since klezmer and dixieland clarinet overlap so much (Mickey Katz, Benny Goodman playing "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"...), but I didn't find anything on line about that, other than the post you're quoting, the post IT's quoting, and your own post. The internet is so dang recursive.<br /><br />Finally, Leroy Shield (no "s") was also known as Roy (as I learned from a different set of liner notes, to the Beau Hunks' great Little Rascals album). But Larry?<br /><br />We need a Talmudic Hal Roach scholar.<br /><br />.<br /><br />. I googled, as I bet you did. "Larry Shield" comes up as a writing credit on chestnuts like "Tiger Rag" and "Fidgety Feet."

But Larry SHIELDS is all over the web, including Wikipedia, where he's identified as an early New Orleans clarinetist who was on the recordings by the Original Dixieland Jass Band, often credited as the first jazz records (and offered up by racists as "evidence" that jazz was invented by white people). He was one of the first N.O. musicians to go to Chicago, and he later spent time in L.A., Chicago, and finally L.A., where he did not write scores for Hal Roach.

The klezmer angle is interesting, since klezmer and dixieland clarinet overlap so much (Mickey Katz, Benny Goodman playing "Bei Mir Bist Du Schoen"…), but I didn't find anything on line about that, other than the post you're quoting, the post IT's quoting, and your own post. The internet is so dang recursive.

Finally, Leroy Shield (no "s") was also known as Roy (as I learned from a different set of liner notes, to the Beau Hunks' great Little Rascals album). But Larry?

We need a Talmudic Hal Roach scholar.

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